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Author Topic:   How New Testament Fundi Christians Bless Atheists, Roman Catholics And Others
purpledawn
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From: Indiana
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Message 106 of 112 (612504)
04-16-2011 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Buzsaw
04-16-2011 8:39 AM


Be Specific
quote:
This is the Coffee House. A lot is asserted here by us all. I'm asserting that the cause and effect of our blessings are largly due to the fact that Jehovah exists and that his covenants are to be taken seriously.
The rules still apply in the Coffee House, the topic just doesn't have to be in line with Evolution vs Creation. You need to have evidence or reasoned argumentation. You've provided neither, but demand evidence from others. Not really playing fair, are you?
Specifically list what you consider to be blessings for Atheists, RC, and others.
You aren't providing anything to build a discussion upon and at 105 posts, we've still stuck at asking for evidence. Imagine that.

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Buzsaw
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Message 107 of 112 (612508)
04-16-2011 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by purpledawn
04-16-2011 1:20 PM


Re: Be Specific
That's your opinion and nothing more PD. Do you believe in the Abrahamic Covent to which I alluded. Evidently not. Do I have hard evidence that Jehovah exists and that the Abrahamic Covenant, to which Biblical fundies ascribe to, is causational? Likely most here would say no.
Again, here in the Coffee House a lot of conjecture, aspects of the supernatural and assertions get aired. You're trying to hold me, Buzaw, to requirements, ne'er before required. You need to revisit some of the stuff aired in the Coffee Shop.
If you don't agree, give it your best shot. I'm likely going to take issue some of your points. I intend to respond to your previous post, when I get to it, but I'm out of town a lot and very busy these days, so bear with me.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

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purpledawn
Member (Idle past 3478 days)
Posts: 4453
From: Indiana
Joined: 04-25-2004


Message 108 of 112 (612516)
04-16-2011 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
04-16-2011 2:31 PM


Re: Be Specific
quote:
That's your opinion and nothing more PD. Do you believe in the Abrahamic Covent to which I alluded. Evidently not. Do I have hard evidence that Jehovah exists and that the Abrahamic Covenant, to which Biblical fundies ascribe to, is causational? Likely most here would say no.
It has nothing to do with believing. You want us to believe what you say instead of showing us that what you are saying is reality.
Causation
1. the action of causing or producing.
2. the relation of cause to effect; causality.
3. anything that produces an effect; cause.
Causality is the relationship between an event (the cause) and a second event (the effect), where the second event is understood as a consequence of the first
This thread won't go anywhere until you provide some real information. Get to the guts of the issue please.

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Stile
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Message 109 of 112 (612750)
04-18-2011 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Tram law
04-16-2011 11:33 AM


Christ's Message
Tram law writes:
What is Christ's message and what is wrong with it?
From what I understand, Christ's message is basically:
"Do unto others as you would have done to you".
(Treating others as you want to be treated)
Although much better than "an eye for an eye" mentality, the problem with this simplistic statement is that sometimes other people do not want to be treated as you want to be treated.
Something more along the lines of:
"Do unto others according to their wishes"
...would be better.
Inquiring about how people would want to be treated is an important factor when doing something that affects those same people.
Seems like such a basic concept, when one is thinking about how best to live among others peacefully... too bad Jesus didn't get it quite right.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
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From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 110 of 112 (612753)
04-18-2011 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Tram law
04-16-2011 11:33 AM


Tram law writes:
What is Christ's message and what is wrong with it?
Ironically, Christ's message was to Pharisee Phundies exactly like Buzsaw, to tell them to stop pretending that had it all right and to start doing it right instead.

If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 111 of 112 (612754)
04-18-2011 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
04-16-2011 2:31 PM


Re: Be Specific
Buzsaw writes:
That's your opinion and nothing more PD. Do you believe in the Abrahamic Covent to which I alluded. Evidently not. Do I have hard evidence that Jehovah exists and that the Abrahamic Covenant, to which Biblical fundies ascribe to, is causational? Likely most here would say no.
Again, here in the Coffee House a lot of conjecture, aspects of the supernatural and assertions get aired. You're trying to hold me, Buzaw, to requirements, ne'er before required. You need to revisit some of the stuff aired in the Coffee Shop.
If you don't agree, give it your best shot. I'm likely going to take issue some of your points. I intend to respond to your previous post, when I get to it, but I'm out of town a lot and very busy these days, so bear with me.
How would even the Armageddon you seem to ascribe to benefit Atheists, Roman Catholics and Others?
Do you even know what the Abrahamic Covenant is and what it promises?
Do you understand the Abrahamic Covenant, that is is unconditional and requires only God to fulfill his part?
Do you understand that Muslims are also covered by the Abrahamic Covenant?
Do you understand that it ONLY applies to life here on earth and is totally unrelated to your Messianic Armageddon?
Have you ever read the Bible?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 112 of 112 (612757)
04-18-2011 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Buzsaw
04-16-2011 2:31 PM


Let me get this straight
So, you've noticed a correlation between "free, prosperous and blessed" nations and the presense of "Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Fundamentalists who promote the New Testament fundamentals", right?
And the proposal here is that others will be unable to prove that this correlation does not imply a causation, and therefore, they should accept that the nations being free prosperous and blessed is a result of the presense of those fundamentalists?
Am I getting this straight?

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