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There was also the issue of communication and transportation in the era. Neither was easy or fast but it was faster to bring a few people from each State to a central location than to try to have all the votes tallied and returned in a reasonable period. The electoral college allowed representatives from each area to gather and to build a consensus rather than a flat static tally.

He said he didn't do anything wrong, but never the less, the transcript showed he broke a number of laws.Since Biden was running for president, this is directly asking a foreign power to interfer with the american election, and since he was witholding aid from the ukraine at the time, the following laws were broken 18 U.S. Code 872: Extortion by officers or employees of the United States. and 18 U.S. Code 610, which covers that crime rather clearly under the title: Coercion of political activity. The refusal to provide papers after subpoenas violoated 2 U.S. Code 192, Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers, And that isn't all.

Absolutely.But we must also keep in mind that the states’ rights concerns, including the 3/5 compromise, the configuration of the senate and of the electoral college, were concerns of the smaller states being relegated as junior partners instead of as equals with the more populous states. Compromises without which, it was feared, there would be no union.The invocation of states’ rights in the ensuing 80 years was a travesty, maybe even a foreseeable one, but the political climate of the time was not conducive to less without resulting in competing, possibly warring, states as politically fragmented as Europe which the founders were desperately trying to avoid. One need only read the Federalist Papers to see how important the tension between large/small states were to the compromises made throughout the entire constitution.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Trump should be removed from office

I'm glad to see Christianity Today take this stand.

Note also how many Repugnicans have repeated the lies that impeachment required the violations of specific statues of law. No! The grounds for impeachment are primarily divorced from statues of the criminal code, which did not even exist when the Constitution of the United States of America was being written -- for that matter, it is only by the authority of the Constitution of the United States of America that the criminal code even exists at all. Ultimately, the grounds for impeachment laid in the abuse of power for corrupt purposes. Many such grounds (such as collusion with hostile foreign governments, as was documented over-amply in the Mueller Report) may not have violated any actual law, but they are impeachable nonetheless.The thing about Trump is that he is a "two-fer", though many times over. OK, I've been gathering this one my own. A "two-fer" would be a "two for one", wherein a single decision ends up checking two boxes instead. For example there was a character on "30 Rock" who was very well dressed and erudite and also black, so everybody assumed that he was both gay and black and thus always referred to him as "Two-Fer" since he marked off both the gay and black boxes. The last I followed was that upon hearing about that reasoning, he immediately rejected the gay part, but then I lost track of any subsequent action.The thing is that what Trump rightfully is being impeached for has nothing to do with any actual criminal statues. Trying to artificially require actual violations of criminal statues is just a lying Republican deception that we have heard far too much.Yet at the same time (the "Two Fer") Trump has also violated many federal laws, including directly ordering other government officials to violate federal laws -- I am no lawyer, but I can only assume that there must be some federal law against ordering other government officials under you to deliberately violate federal law. Any informed comments to this question?

Great. Another conservative coward who waits until he's retiring to express his concerns with Trump.While this is an interesting statement, what this country really needs are conservatives who are willing to push back against Trump bullshit while they're in positions to make some kind of difference. By waiting until they retire, they're pretty much acknowledging that they've deliberately squandered an opportunity to make a positive contribution to the country, and they've even given aid and comfort to its enemies.

I'm responding to the posts on the article in Christianity Today on this thread, but Percy has posted a longer excerpt on the Trump Bashing Thread in Message 3693. Christianity Today has long been regarded by serious Christians as a farce unto itself, a compromising mealy-mouthed lukewarm dilution of Christian principles. And to my mind this is its lowest point ever.Trump has done absolutely NOTHING wrong, NOTHING. People do not know how to read the transcript of that phone call, as usual they let the Left tell them that ordinary communications are wrongdoing. This is the fundamental travesty of the whole partisan war that has been waged against Trump since before he was elected.t least the article acknowledged the injustices of the proceedings against him but that alone should have shut their mouths as it should have shut the mouths of the House Democrats if they had any sense of decency. It should invalidate the impeachment entirely. But they don't have any such decency. They were out to get him from the beginning, they could not care less about law and Constitution. Their fake expressions of remorse and solemnnity were nauseating. It has always been nothing but a Leftist coup against a duly elected President and they were celebrating, not at all sad about any of it. They finally found a way, a lying twisted way to get him and that's all. To do it they made a mockery of law and Constitution.Yes Trump himself knows he said noting wrong in that phone call, but few are listening to him. He said it was "perfect," which is overblown language but then that's his personality and the fact is there was not one single moral fault in that phone call. No he was NOT pressuring a foreign leader to act in any way to benefit himself personally. Everything he said, and in fact everything he does as President is to benefit the nation and the American people, and it's often cost him personally, though at every turn he is wrongly accused of being out for himself. It is a sad sad day when the best President we've had in decades is treated as a miscreant.Something similar happened to Andrew Johnson. He wanted to get rid of his war secretary. Congress didn't want him to get rid of his war secretary although that was well within his rightful power as President. Congress UNCONSTITUTIONALLY PASSED A LAW saying he couldn't get rid of his war secretary, so when he did get rid of him he was now a lawbreaker. Although the law he'd broken was unconstitutional. They then impeached him for breaking it.In this case Trump was speaking to the Ukrainian President about corruptions that affected AMERICAN INTERESTS, asking him to get to the bottom of them. There was no aid attached to the request, it was just a request. The quid pro quo was read into the conversation by Schiff and others, it is not there.Trump has done more for the country in the last two and a half years in spite of this continuing battering against him than any other President since Reagan at least. Economically and in every other way we are prospering again. AND NO, I am NOT talking about PERFECTION, I know there are still people in poverty. The point is he's done MORE than other Presidents to improve the economic situation, put people to work and so on, and certainly dragged us up out of the economic morass Obama created and any further Democrat will create.I take this impeachment travesty as God's judgment against the nation, and all I can do is preay for His mercy. The election of Trump with his ability to lift the nation out of the swamp was already God's mercy, now I pray that He will expose this injustice against him and against those of us who voted for him. The lies against this President are the moral incompetence the article imputes to him.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Why do you and Trump call things the "lowest point ever" or the "greatest witch hunt ever"? You remind me of the kids who are asked what's the greatest movie ever and they reply with the one that they saw last week - and next week they'll reply with the one they saw this week. You have no concept of time.

If you're going to quote me please do it correctly. I was talking about the Christianity Today article and nothing else, and I did not say anything about the "greatest witch hunt ever." Please sharpen up your reading skills.

Faith, in Message 3938 flusters: But Ramoss, in Message 3932 above, lays it out clearly: So instead it's Faith that has to learn how to read some more and understand it.

Yeah, somebody spent some time looking up official sounding laws to accuse him of, so what else is new? Just the latest in the long long line of fishing expeditions to come up with anything to accuse him of. What a crock. BIDEN HAS NOT EVEN BEEN NOMINATED, and all Trump was doing was asking Zelensky to look into corruptions involving American interests, the main one being the 2016 election in which Hillary was being promoted by the Ukraine, but also the side issue he'd been hearing about involving Hunter Biden. Zelensky himself said there was no pressure, though of course anybody who defends Trump gets called a liar by the utterly depraved Left, even the President of a foreign country that's how depraved they are.

Faith, the laws sound official since they are official.

Yeah but they don't apply. They are the usual invention. ANYTHING to insinuate wrongdoing on Trump's part.

Faith, not even the President of the United States is above the law. The laws are not inventions. Trump's behavior is not invention. But after all, we are talking about a man who has been an abject failure at everything all his life. Hell he even failed at running a casino and beauty pageant.