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custard
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Message 61 of 355 (116159)
06-17-2004 6:04 PM
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06-17-2004 4:23 PM


jar writes:
You, Dr. Scott and your theory of the Pyramid are simply jokes.
Have any of you actually watched Dr. Gene Scott? My friends and I used to watch him way back in the eighties. This guy is absolutely classic. You can find some interesting anecdotes about him here:
My favorite one is this:
quote:
Once he excommunicated his entire church on camera because it wasn’t giving him enough money.
When he was being investigated by, among others, the State Attorney General’s office, he would assemble his monkey band, a collection of wind-up toy monkeys on stage. Then he would take a baseball bat and smash them. He would end this performance by sitting back and laughing uproariously.
Sounds like a much more credible source regarding the pyramids than those whacky, biased, no-nothing egyptologists.

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Abshalom
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Message 62 of 355 (116169)
06-17-2004 6:34 PM
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06-17-2004 6:04 PM


Proof of Gene Scott
Breathing Space: The Home Page of Brian Gonsalves
Televangelism is alive and well in Southern California!

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jar
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Message 63 of 355 (116172)
06-17-2004 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Cold Foreign Object
06-17-2004 5:37 PM


WILLOWTREE, an assertion is a statement such as "GOD made the Great Pyramid."
Saying that the Great Pyramid is 146 meters tall is a statement of fact.
But if you would like a reference, try this one.
WILLOWTREE, maybe you really don't understand, but I kinda doubt it. For a reference to where the Great Pyramid is located, go to 29.98 N and for Thebes, turn south to 25.71 N. If you have problems, I'l get you east and west coordinates as well.
You simply are unable to respond to serious questions. In every single thread, when people point out just how silly your ideas are, you resort to non-answers and nonsense.
YOU asserted
Egypt is the only country in the world where you can be in the center of Egypt and at the border. This is so because at the exact location of the Pyramid is the Nile-Delta Quadrant, which is the border of Upper and Lower Egypt AND it is the center of all Egypt.
Well, a quick look at any map shows that the Great Pyramid is not on a border, is not in the center of Egypt and that there is NOTHING called the Nile-Delta Quadrant. In addition, the Great Pyramid was built about five centuries after the two kingdoms were united.
You asserted that
The Pyramid is exactly 5,449 sacred inches in height from the base to the Summit Platform.
That is 454 feet which is 138 meters. Unfortunately, the Great Pyramid is 146+ meters tall. That means your first and most basic measurement is totaly wrong and so all other measurements are equally wrong.
Since everything that your supposition is based on has been shown to be wrong, it is safe to say that the author, one E. Raymond Capt M.A.,A.I.A.,F.S.A.,SCOT, is a complete idiot, charlatan, liar and fool.
Clear enough Bubba?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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custard
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Message 64 of 355 (116176)
06-17-2004 6:55 PM
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06-17-2004 6:04 PM


It's easy to see Dr. Scott's appeal:
quote:
"People started walking away feeling they had been in the presence of a Renaissance man," extols David R. Igler, a hospital vice president. "It was kind of like being with a Leonardo da Vinci. I don't think I've ever had an encounter or experience like that in my life."

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custard
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Message 65 of 355 (116177)
06-17-2004 6:59 PM
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06-17-2004 6:55 PM


Aha ha ha ha ha. I just have to point this out, it's so far down on Abshaloms link, that I fear people might miss out:
quote:
"I saw a stairway begin to roll down from heaven and come right down to the side of my bed," Inez Leona Graves Scott recalled in a 1980 interview. "Two angels walked down and they stopped in front of Gene. I said, 'Oh no, Lord, you can't take Gene!' and they just went around him and picked the baby up."
The infant died but Gene was spared. From then on, his parents knew their surviving child was special. Shortly thereafter, the family moved to the Northern California town of Gridley when W.T. Scott agreed to head an Assemblies of God church. He succeeded a pastor who crucified himself on a tree trying to imitate the marks of Christ. "At that time, the people like my dad were the cults, the kooks and the nuts," Scott once told an interviewer.
Yeah, good thing they came around to see the truth.
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Melchior
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Message 66 of 355 (116180)
06-17-2004 7:02 PM
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06-17-2004 6:45 PM


I believe this was pointed out in an earlier thread, but the great pyramid is 138ish meters up to the top cap. The top cap itself adds up to the rest.
WILLOWTREE has earlier pointed out that this is important, although he'll have to explain why himself.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 67 of 355 (116189)
06-17-2004 8:01 PM


i'm just confused because the bible verse doesn't say ANYTHING about god making the altar. immaterial of whether it is the pyramid or not, an altar to god isn't made by god. that's ridiculous. why would he make an altar to himself? why should he? why would he need to?

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Message 68 of 355 (116195)
06-17-2004 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by PaulK
06-17-2004 4:08 PM


Re: God built the Pyramid
Message 35 most certainly does adequately answer your message number 32.
quote:
THe evidence does not support your claims
Yes it does.
All you are doing is claiming a victory. Show me.
You are a person who probably never even knew of these claims until I brought them up, you certainly never studied them, and now you ignorantly present yourself as knowledgeable and qualified to refute them ?
Every person who has never studied the claims I present needs to forsake this "I already know" attitude because every time you type a post you reveal that you don't.

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Message 69 of 355 (116199)
06-17-2004 8:43 PM
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06-17-2004 6:45 PM


The measuring unit by which the Pyramid was constructed is the "sacred inch" which is essentially the British inch. If you want I will cut and paste all the evidence you ignored which proves this.
I only want to take one point at a time.
Your post is also very embarrassing in that you continually say astronomically ignorant things.
E. Raymond Capt is a brilliant researcher and your denigration of him is pure fundie stupidity. You should refute Capt with your evidence before you engage in school yard insults.
Who wants to seriously debate this topic ?
Jar is too rantful and ignorant.
I will wait for the right person to come along.
You all need to know your place in a subject that proves you haven't spent any time investigating.
You only "win" if you ignore my actual evidence and the explanation of it.
I will debate, but only a serious respectful person. Otherwise it is a waste of time dealing with a mob which is what has infected this room.

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NosyNed
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Message 70 of 355 (116200)
06-17-2004 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Cold Foreign Object
05-13-2004 5:54 PM


Center of Land Mass?
That's right. Lines drawn north, south, east and west from the pyramid equally divide the earth's terrain.
see Shaw Communications
Taking that image at face value as an "equal area" projection and eye balling it, it seems to me that the upper right quadrant clearly has more area of land than any of the other three. I'm using the meridan and parallel that intersect very close to the location of the great pyramid.
Could you supply the exact measurements used to support your conjecture since it doesn't appear to be correct.

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 71 of 355 (116211)
06-17-2004 9:17 PM
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06-17-2004 8:44 PM


Re: Center of Land Mass?
Ned:
I just emailed Percy a diagram/picture. I will wait for him to post it before we proceed.
I did this because I do not know how to post pictures myself and because Percy once told me he would do it for me.
WT

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Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 72 of 355 (116215)
06-17-2004 9:26 PM
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06-17-2004 8:44 PM


Re: Center of Land Mass?
quote:
Could you supply the exact measurements
From post #30 in this topic. Also, when the picture is posted it will be even more clear.
E. Raymond Capt excerpt: (The Great Pyramid Decoded, page 11)
The Great Pyramid was placed in the exact center of all the land area of the world. Lines drawn through the north-south and east-west axis of the Pyramid divide equally the earth's terrain. The north-south axis (31 degrees 9' meridian east Greenwich) is the longest land meridian, and the east-west axis (29 degrees 58'51' north), the longest land parallel. That the Architect knew where to find the poles of the Earth is evidenced by the high degree of accuracy in orienting the (Pyramid) true north. Modern man's best effort, the Paris Observatory, is six minutes of degrees off true north. The Great Pyramid today is only off three minutes and that after 4200 years, due mainly to subsidence and/or continental drift.
END CAPT EXCERPT.
Edit: Could this be why the Middle East is called the Middle East ?
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sidelined
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Message 73 of 355 (116216)
06-17-2004 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Cold Foreign Object
05-13-2004 5:54 PM


Willowtree
The source of this inch, is the axis of the earth. 1/500,000,000th part of the earth's axis is equal to the sacred inch. The Metric system uses the circumference of the earth from the pole to the equator as it's source. Since that distance varies at different places measured, the most logical and accurate system of measurement then would be the sacred inch system, because the earth's axis doesn't change.
Well what an interseting bit of lore. Perhaps we could bring to bear just a little scepticism to the table.First we have this item
On one day, at the Vernal Equinox in the year 2141 BC, Alpha Draconus, the "Dragon Star" in the Draco constellation, was the pole star and it was so perfectly aligned with the descending passage, that if someone was at the bottom holding a mirror, that star would reflect that light.
I cannot yet say but I am downloading a software package that will allow me to reverse the night sky into the past while watching the constellations. I will be able to verify whether Alpha Draconus was indeed in the location necessary to qualify as the pole star but I think at the moment that such is not the case.
Regardless we need to also ask how they were able to determine the polar axis on a direct course through the center of the planet.Given that the north star was Alpha Draconus {yet to be verified} we need the other half of the equation which is a perfectly aligned star to determine the location of the south polar axis.
Now I do not believe that there is much in the way of likelihood of such a occuence actually coming together between the northern and southern skies.But in order for a proper determination of this,
The source of this inch, is the axis of the earth. 1/500,000,000th part of the earth's axis is equal to the sacred inch.
We require both these to be present otherwise we have no way of determining the actual axis of the Earth.{nor does anybody else.}
Please see if you can bring this information to the table while I run the software to determine locations of stars in 2141 B.C.
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You paddle your kayak up the river from your camp to fetch your camera which you left on a rock upstream a bit. The river flows at a uniform 2 mi/hr. You paddle (on still water) at a uniform 3 mi/hr. It takes 30 minutes to reach your camera. If you paddle all the way back to your camp, how long will the return trip take?

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Message 74 of 355 (116221)
06-17-2004 9:39 PM
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I'm actually glad to see you participate here Sidelined.
I will get back to this post of yours ASAP.

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custard
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Message 75 of 355 (116225)
06-17-2004 9:49 PM
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06-17-2004 9:26 PM


Re: Center of Land Mass?
willowtree writes:
Edit: Could this be why the Middle East is called the Middle East ?
No it could not. This is because Europe was considered the West, and China/SE Asia was considered the Far East. The accepted dividing line between West (Europe) and East (the Orient) was around Serbia. Hence the Balkans and Turkey were the Near East, Arab countries the Middle East, and China/SE Asia the Far East.
Example from wikipedia.com:
quote:
The description Middle has also led to some confusion over changing definitions. Before the First World War, Near East was used in Britain to refer to the Balkans and the Ottoman Empire, while Middle East referred to Persia, Afghanistan and sometimes Central Asia, Turkestan and the Caucasus. (Far East referred to countries such as Malaysia and Singapore.) With the disappearance of the Ottoman Empire in 1918, Near East largely fell out of common use, while Middle East came to be applied to the re-emerging countries of the Arab world.

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