Is bicamerality bullshit?

I would be inclined to call that schizophrenia or self-delusion, though in some cases it is probably a matter of lying by the person who claims that experience.

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Yes. But why is it "self-righteous" of me if I am not bicameral? Why isn't bicamerality the true landscape of self-righteousness? How could I call myself "self-righteous" if I don't believe in God or don't hear bicameral voices? Is it self-righteous of me to believe that I'm more evolved than people who say I will go to hell if I don't believe as they do?”HM

i'm not talking to you anymore.

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I would be inclined to call that schizophrenia or self-delusion, though in some cases it is probably a matter of lying by the person who claims that experience.

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Certain hallucinogens can cause auditory hallucinations. The nightshade family is known for it. Particularly belladonna and datura.

Why not? Does my honesty offend you?”HM

As per the definition of concious it is real; it exists and is operative in intelligent life and perhaps may be bicameral.Some of us have had experiences which would be considered metaphysical. We can't prove that, but we know it from experience. One must be connected with the metaphysical; i.e. on line so to speak via a connection or medium. As I understand the word, bicameral, we would consider ourselves to have a bicameral conciousness.Merriam Webster Definition Of Concious: Conscious Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Buz, do you think it is possible for one person to communicate what human consciousness means to another without either one being totally dependent upon the use of metaphors and analogs?”HM

hoot, you haven't even demonstrated that human mind ever was bicameral (it wasn't), or that bicamerality would produce such things (it doesn't). and that's a far cry from asserting that people today have some mental defect.

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yes, a lot like ray strays from the usual meaning of "darwinism." one of the first signs of a commitment to a bad ideology is when you have to start redefining words with accepted meanings. actually hearing voices that you think are god is called "schizophrenia." i think you'll find that a good man people who claim to communicate with god are not schizophrenic. some might be liars, but most just want to fit in or have been conditioned to believe certain parts of the their normal conscious internal dialog are god.

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According to Merriam Webster the definition of bicameral is two legislative chambers, (i.e. as I understand that, two operative avenues of concious determination.)Examples as I understand this would be the two conciously operative legislative chambers of our government or the physical and metaphysical realms of existence as some of us Biblical creationists claim to be conciously operative.

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BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

Yes, and that was Jaynes' point. Bicameral people who pray to God and get answers are actually suffering from symptoms of schizophrenia. This means 40% of Americans are suffering from bicameral schizophrenia, including our consciousness-challenged president.Maybe you ought to read Jaynes' book. You're letting others form your opinions for you.”HM

Jaynes was using the term to refer to the alleged separation between left brain and right brain.

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I doubt that.Most people who talk of "hearing God talk to them" are using that phrase metaphorically, and will admit that they are using it metaphorically if asked.

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Let's end the political smears

Yes, of course. Does anybody ever talk without using metaphors. This is what Jaynes was talking about”metaphors”and using metaphors to talk about them.My point, as is Jaynes', is that bicamerality and schizophrenia are not too far apart. And bicamerality is a political imperative. Do you suppose someone could be elected president of the United States if he or she claimed to have never prayed or spoken with God? Even if you never did you better say you did and lie about your bicamerality. Otherwise you'll lose all your bicameral voters, who amount to about 40% of the electorate.Sad but true: In bicamerality we trust.”HM

You seem to be using "bicamerality" to mean something like "religiosity." And, sorry, that is not at all similar to schizophrenia.

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Let's end the political smears