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Topic: Gettin' Banned - Our favorite moments
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Xeriar
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Re: POTM? AOTM! AOTY!!!
Danke! I like it. I'm taking a break from debating at this moment, I just figured I'd register first and say hi. :-)
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Trump won 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1261 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 62 of 121 (188989)
02-27-2005 5:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 10 by berberry
01-29-2005 1:23 AM
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wow.
berberry is it alright if I make this deceptive behavior known. Earth said you could make a new thread but he bans you so he cant. He purposefully is trying to conceal the truth. So can I confront him about this? I wont mention names.
-one word to describe me, spectacular yes
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berberry
Inactive Member
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Message 63 of 121 (189013)
02-27-2005 7:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 62 by Trump won
02-27-2005 5:56 PM
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Re: wow.
Fine with me if you want to, chris, but I've lost interest in that site. I probably won't go back there even if I can.
Keep America Safe AND Free!
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Sylas
Member (Idle past 5282 days) Posts: 766 From: Newcastle, Australia Joined: 11-17-2002
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Message 64 of 121 (189065)
02-27-2005 11:03 PM
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This is not quite a banning; but it is my favourite moment. I was enrolled at a forum run by Jason Gastrich. Jason at some point posted an interesting forum guideline: nonbelievers were welcome, but if they were still nonbelievers after some time limit (500 posts, or 12 months) then they would be banned. The forum has an enormous list of rules. The rule in question is:
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As of September 1, 2003, atheists and non-Christians are allowed a maximum of 500 posts or 1 year of membership (whichever comes first). If the non-Christian member still rejects the biblical God after that time, they will be banned from the forum. The JCSM Forum is not designed for Christians to become unequally yoked with the world by spending thousands of hours mingling with the same, unrepentant sinners. It wasn't designed for believers to form intimate, unscriptural relationships with unbelievers. Christ told His disciples to move on if people rejected them, so giving non-Christians 500 posts or 1 year of membership is ample time for them to repent and believe, trust, and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
I discontinued myself the same day the rule came into effect, with no hard feelings and never a backwards glance. Cheers -- Sylas PS. I'm still enrolled as a member. What do you know. Here is my last post (Sept 2, 2003)
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Bye Silas. Thanks for coming and posting. The rejection you may feel now will be nothing compared to the rejection that you will feel at judgment day if you continue to reject God. Most atheists that take years and years to repent bounce around from one Christian group to another. We hope you bounce to a another, solid one and repent and trust Christ. That is the most important thing in life.
Thanks for making me welcome. This breaks my previous comment about being a last post, but a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... :-) I don't want to let my last word here be by default Jason's comment that I feel "rejected". I don't feel rejected; I've been made welcome here, and so I assure you that there is no problem or resentment on my part. You are, I repeat, welcome to make your rules as you see fit, to get the kind of forum you want. I've called myself a "Christian-friendly atheist" in my profile; and part of that is not imposing myself where I am not wanted. I've already had some misgivings about participation here in any case. My attempts at dialog have not worked out; fairly straightforward questions just don't get answered. Again; no problem. But if it means people are not interested then I probably should take that into account. One theological comment, however.... the threat of judgment is a lousy way to encourage one to examine their beliefs with integrity. It is, fairly transparently, mainly effective as a device to make believers afraid to question; not as a device to persuade unbelievers. I'm not anti-Christian by any means. At the risk of sounding a cliche, some of my best friends are Christians; and I have zero interest in dissuading them of their beliefs. Christianity can have good effects, and bad effects. Conversion to Christianity for an unbeliever, or loss of faith by a believer, can be associated with good and bad effects as well. One common negative effect of Christianity is fear; fear of judgement and in particular a paralysing fear of examining ones own faith. This is not universal, of course; but I'd be cautious of encouraging that aspect! People may be more likely to retain faith give such influences; but the faith is less likely to be empowering for their life. There is plenty of scope for forums and discussions where diverse people share as equals. However, not everyone wants that engagement, and consider that the biblical injunction about "unequally yoked" actually deprecates and constrains such engagement. Again; no problem. That is a choice, and I don't rebel against it. So really... no hard feelings, no rejection, no anger or resentment. Just hail fellow, well met, thanks for the fish, best of luck to you all... and farewell. -- Silas
This message has been edited by Sylas, 02-27-2005 23:10 AM
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 65 of 121 (189067)
02-27-2005 11:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Sylas
02-27-2005 11:03 PM
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Boy, I wonder how long some of us Believers would last. LOL 
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1261 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 66 of 121 (189070)
02-27-2005 11:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 63 by berberry
02-27-2005 7:42 PM
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Re: wow.
Well I made a thread callled "deceptive moderation?" Apparently theyre banning for moderation criticism. And they never say who's banned or not on the site. I'm glad that's made aware of here This message has been edited by chris porcelain, 02-27-2005 23:12 AM
-one word to describe me, spectacular yes
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Sylas
Member (Idle past 5282 days) Posts: 766 From: Newcastle, Australia Joined: 11-17-2002
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Message 67 of 121 (189075)
02-27-2005 11:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 65 by jar
02-27-2005 11:06 PM
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I've had a closer look. The whole forum has imploded. The last post, by anyone, was on October 22, 2003, in which Jason announced that the forum was closed to posting by anyone at all; and only available now as an archive. Surprise surprise. Those wanting to continue discussions are directed to other locations Jason has set up. It's all a bit odd. Jason is a seriously creepy individual. But if you want to follow his links, here is the closing message:
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Hello Everybody, I hope and pray you are well, today. Right now, the JCSM Forum is only online as an archive. The 14,000+ messages will be available for viewing. However, no new posting will be allowed. There are two places that might interest you. One is a newsgroup and the other is an intellectual, discussion board. You are welcome to visit each and even post messages. 1) The Free.Christians Newsgroup - http: //freechristians.org and news:free.christians 2) The Inerrancy Discussion Board - http: //inerrancy.com May God bless you richly. Sincerely,
Jason Gastrich
I have deliberately disabled the links; there has been some question of how safe Jason's links might be. I'm not sure how well founded such questions are; but to be safe, the two urls are disabled with a space.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 68 of 121 (189107)
02-28-2005 3:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Sylas
02-27-2005 11:03 PM
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that's a funny rule.
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As of September 1, 2003, atheists and non-Christians are allowed a maximum of 500 posts or 1 year of membership (whichever comes first). If the non-Christian member still rejects the biblical God after that time, they will be banned from the forum.
what if you're a christian and reject the biblical god? i should go there and cause problems.
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The JCSM Forum is not designed for Christians to become unequally yoked with the world by spending thousands of hours mingling with the same, unrepentant sinners.
that verse deals with marriage. what are they up on that board?
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Christ told His disciples to move on if people rejected them, so giving non-Christians 500 posts or 1 year of membership is ample time for them to repent and believe, trust, and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
christ doesn't strike me as isolationist. afterall, he said take the message to the world, right? how are you supposed to do that if talking to unbelievers is discouraged? jesus hung out with the unsavory sort, too. this is the exact reason athiest are so disgusted with christians, in my educated (and previously athiestic) opinion. it's called "hollier than thou." and what weak faith they must have to run away from challenges and tempations.
never a backwards glance a biblical reference. how ironic. This message has been edited by Arachnophilia, 02-28-2005 03:34 AM
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Phat
Member Posts: 18308 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Standards: Who sets them?
Arachnophilia writes: what if you're a christian and reject the biblical god? Then you are not a Christian by majority definition.
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arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: 05-21-2004
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Message 70 of 121 (189110)
02-28-2005 4:07 AM
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Reply to: Message 69 by Phat
02-28-2005 3:54 AM
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Standards: I set them
Then you are not a Christian by majority definition. i thought it was about a personal relationship with god, not what the majority thinks about my opinion of how the bible represents him. also, you're probably right. i'm working on that one.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18308 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 1.1
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Re: Standards: I set them
Hi, Arach! I was just being ornery when I wrote that! Its my whole irritation with Rrhain when he tells me that he believes in god....just not MY God! I insist that God be an absolute concept that is non negotiable between humans personal interpretations. Your kind response to my jab at you shows me that you seem to agree with the God/Love concept from a heart level but that your educated mind has seen too much contradiction and inconsistency within scripture to blindly accept the Bible...and by extension the God of the Bible. You are right. It is a personal relationship. And when I throw jabs like that, please hit me upside the head with some kind words as you have done. The blessing destroys the curse! 
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Probably should go in another thread, but ...
Arachnophilia writes: what if you're a christian and reject the biblical god? Is there a difference between rejecting the Biblical GOD and rejecting the Biblical descriptions of GOD? If you look at some of the tales in the Bible and say, "Nope, those are not true descriptions but rather plot devices used to present a moral or message.", is that rejecting the GOD of the Bible or simply placing the stories in context?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1261 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 73 of 121 (189237)
02-28-2005 3:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 63 by berberry
02-27-2005 7:42 PM
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Re: :/
I was banned. I told a story about Jesus, that he wouldnt have hide or runaway from another interpretation of the Bible. then he deleted what I said and banned me. I have asked to be reinstated. I can't believe Christianity - Beliefs and History of Faith in God and Jesus Christ is representing the christians today. It's disgusting. You read threads with titles such as "why did God make women with hairy armpits and legs?". I can't wait for Jesus to come back. An old man in a shiny white robe. Christianity has degraded to the point where you can't tell the difference between it and corporations. There will be a revolution in America within the next 50 years.
-one word to describe me, spectacular yes
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CK
Member (Idle past 4149 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 74 of 121 (189239)
02-28-2005 3:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 73 by Trump won
02-28-2005 3:24 PM
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Re: :/
Chris, if you don't mind me asking - are your interactions with christians online representive with those you have in real life?
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1261 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 75 of 121 (189240)
02-28-2005 3:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 74 by CK
02-28-2005 3:33 PM
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Re: :/
A new era has come. Last year every christian I knew I could speak for. I recently went to a conference and I met the likes of this online christians. Ignorant, sexist,and sometimes they are racists. The problem was the worst one I met was the guest speaker... The christianity I know is still being spoken, I've met two that taught me.
-one word to describe me, spectacular yes
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