Christianity and the End Times

What an utterly stupid question Phat.I am a member of a recognized Christian Sect and not a Jew. What? Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all based on the same God character, the same set of stories, the same basic morality system. But they are distinct different religions.

The ongoing question which we may never find an anser to is whether our ideas and beliefs about said "God character" reflect in any way the actual GOD.Does He care what we think and believe or only what we do? Does He(She,It) care about us any more than pond scum?Will we ever know?Does our obsession with needing to know how GOD thinks indicative of our own need to control things more than finding our Cosmic Daddy?

Certainly not while we are still alive. Only those who have such needed need to even wonder about that. Most folk don't have such a need or fill it by creating and worshiping the God they imagine.

I've often wondered how you label the Christian Culture of what you call "Willful Ignorance"...and this group appears to be quite large.Among them are people whom I respect as being quite inciteful regarding their own personal beliefs and the rationale behind them.You have always attempted to teach that there is no way that anyone can actually know what GOD thinks while we are alive. You have also dismissed most if not all of those who profess Christian apologetics.Matt Dillahunty would agree with you to a large extent.You seem to be ok with not knowing.I agree that it is more about belief than knowledge. My belief insists upon a God Who cares. You seem to have no such need.

Whether or not I am okay with not knowing really is irrelevant. Just as it's really irrelevant whether or not I am capable of jumping over the moon.The issue is no one has ever explained how it might be possible to know anything about any supernatural thing or event. You still have it wrong Phat. My beliefs have no control over reality. It does not matter what I need or believe, I accept the reality that I cannot know.

So an angel appears to someone. (or a UFO, for that matter) and they are fully aware that they have experienced something unexplainable. They may well attribute it to a supernatural event,then..but can never know? See...I disagree with this idea that the atheists and you guys cling to that evidence is the only standard. Why can't experience count?

Christians accept both the OT and NT as being God inspired. The Jews accept the OT only. Muslims accept much of the OT, but the Quran is their holy book.Both Jews and Muslims claim to worship the God of the OT. But, do they?When we compare both Testaments, we soon learn that Jesus (who existed from eternity as the Word or Logos) was the God of both Testaments.Jesus was the member of the God Family who created everything, including the angels. Nothing existed before He created it. Which is why (as our Creator) His blood, and His blood only, could atone for our sins.He was the member of the God Family Who rode in the cloud as the Israelites left Egypt.He, Himself, wrote the 10 Commandments on the tablets of stone.He was the great "I AM," who appeared to Moses in the burning bush.From a Christian perspective, it is quite contradictory for Jews and Muslims to claim that they worship the God of the OT when they despise Him.

There is only one problem that the critics reasonable have with the sacrifice.

And what problem is that?

I forget you can't see videos. It is essentially a video of Matt Dillahunty expounding on this: It does sound rather convoluted. Christians at church would not so much as entertain this question. In my opinion, it is a valuable question to put on the list of questions for God to answer.

It isn't just convoluted. It's a complete non sequitur. It's like saying, "All dogs are brown. Therefore, the Eiffel Tower is the oldest bus-driver on Mars."

You bet. It's also totally absurd.Basically you are being told that your omnipotent god has to kill himself in order to be able to forgive you for something that you didn't do.Does that make any sense at all to you? An organisation not being able to entertain an question should be an immediate reason to leave it. Not being able to answer it is different to not allowing it. Sure, but it's hardly original. It's just another age-old question that has an answer but it's not one you want to hear. Just like the problem of suffering. Religion cannot answer these questions.

Without any commentary, just show me the scriptures that say God sacrificed HIMSELF.HIMSELF.(And I am not asking for scripture about his child or "son")Scripture please.Quote it.

Christians tell us that Jesus is part of a triune God - the Holy Trinity.I'm not going to defend that obvious crap to you - you'll need to find a Christian to do that. But your good friend google has a lot to say about the Trinity's biblical support. Knock yourself out.Top 25 Bible Verses about the Trinity: Father, Son & Holy Spirit

Nice quote from scripture.(Did you miss the part about me ONLY wanting a raw scriptural quotation, absent any blather?)Again, where does it say God sacrificed himself?I don't care what (Gospel) John 1 says.I know that some scriptures say Jesus was God.I just want to see this large New Testament sacrifice theme being put into the context of God HIMSELF being the sacrifice.(Again, I'm not saying that no New Testament books had the idea present, I just wonder why it might never actually spell out that GOD HIMSELF WAS THE SACRIFICE)(I suppose my implication is that "Jesus is/was God" was such a LATE-developing idea, that the Biblical scriptures, with a reflection of various (earlier?) Christologies, did not quite have the chance to certainly describe the oft-repeated sacrificial lamb as God himself)