Prophecy for Buzsaw

"You just don't get how my husband's love works. He only beats me because he loves me. See these two black eyes? Those are the marks of his love."Lys, I think there's shelters that people in your position can go to. You don't have to take the abuse, you know. It doesn't have to be this way. Sure it's simple. God is too clumsy to avoid collateral damage. he's much like the US Air Force that way.

AdminAsqara,I still do not see how your forum guidelines apply to an article one wishes to highlight certain information in. You cannot bolden, highlight, emphasize or do anything to a linked article. However, you can if it is posted.

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~Lysimachus

That's the argument the UN offered, so yes, I'd say it would. As I said, you didn't read enough of your own article.There are not more earthquakes. There are more fatalities from earthquakes. Global warming due to human industrialization increasing thermal energy levels in the atmosphere? Just one idea off the top of my head, and a lot more provable than "god's wrath." Ok, prove it with the stats. I think going back about 100,000 years would be about long enough to substantiate any sort of climatalogical trend.

Why don't you do what we do and both link the article and quote the relevant portions, introducing them with your own remarks?It's the best of both worlds. You supply the info you want, the link keeps it in context, the message is short, and punctuated by your own thoughts for discussion.

You see, you've gone and named people now - Repenting itself might not save me from the noisome pestilence, but naming people and making such statements is ill advised by God; Judge not lest you be judged. I'm not saying you're judging people, and I accept your apology but surely your mistake of naming me can show you that a specific judgement of a particular person's situation, could get you in wrongful waters, and cause you problems. What if God said you were wrong about all these names? So, I feel that I am still on the list. You have apologised for your naming me and I accept that apology, but what if I still feel condemned because of those other names?

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Sure it's simple. God is too clumsy to avoid collateral damage. he's much like the US Air Force that way.

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Now I remember why I used to come here all the time...

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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Global warming due to human industrialization increasing thermal energy levels in the atmosphere? Just one idea off the top of my head, and a lot more provable than "god's wrath."

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Who said I said it is God's wrath? Because the earth is sinful, it is not able to cope with these disasters. It is only a warning to us of what we could have avoided had we (earthlings) stayed faithful. Of course it is due to human industrialization and increasing thermal energy levels in the atmosphere, etc. etc. etc. But this is the means Satan is able to exercise HIS wrath on planet earth. God allows Satan to have only so much control so that it may pay off in awakening His children. God allows calamaties to happen, but does not inflict them. It is through natural and self-inflicting means. Prophecy is not all about fantastical things happening. It is about natural predicted causes that are self-inflicted, but yet guided by supernatural forces.This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 04:42 PMThis message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 04:43 PM

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~Lysimachus

At least I get how spelling someone's last name works, especially after I've already been corrected once. Could you explain how? God says (via the Bible) that he's going to kill me if I don't believe in him. How is that not a threat? True.You'll notice how everything above "that is a loving God" doesn't include killing me. So God is destroying the sinner.You'd think God (I mean honestly, God, he's supposed to be able to do anything) could destroy the sin without destroying the sinner. So clearly he's choosing to destroy me if I don't worship him. I guess I really was asking for it. I shouldn't have worn such a short skirt.

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"Good evening. I'm playing the role of Jesus; a man once portrayed on the big screen by Jeffery Hunter. You may remember him as the actor who was replaced by William Shatner on Star Trek. Apparently Mr. Hunter was good enough to die for our sins, but not quite up to the task of seducing green women."
-Stewie Griffin

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If you're logic was true, then why do we see a major increase of Hurricanes striking the Carribean?

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Number of hurricanes and typhoons, 1950 to 1997 (I'll provide hurricane names for each year if you'd like) (does someone have numbers for '98 to '04?).1950: 12
1951: 10
1952: 6
1953: 8
1954: 8
1955: 11
1956: 7
1957: 6
1958: 10
1959: 10
1960: 6
1961: 10
1962: 5
1963: 8
1964: 9
1965: 5
1966: 12
1967: 8
1968: 7
1969: 13
1970: 7
1971: 12
1972: 4
1973: 7
1974: 7
1975: 8
1976: 8
1977: 6
1978: 11
1979: 8
1980: 11
1981: 11
1982: 5
1983: 4
1984: 12
1985: 11
1986: 6
1987: 6
1988: 11
1989: 11
1990: 14
1991: 7
1992: 6
1993: 8
1994: 7
1995: 19
1996: 13
1997: 7I don't see a trend - you want to do the statistical analysis?

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"Illuminant light,
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I don't see anything from 1998-2004. There hasn't been a trend. These things will start to show up suddenly unlike before. We're speaking of global differences since 1990 here. And you're goign back all the way to 1950?This message has been edited by Lysimachus, 09-20-2004 04:49 PM

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~Lysimachus

maybe you could find us a website - try and make sure it's a real one this time

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God allows Satan to have only so much control so that it may pay off in awakening His children. God allows calamaties to happen, but does not inflict them.

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Ok. Lets say I'm in charge of the machinery that changes control rods in a nuclear power plant in your city. I decide that I don't like your city. So, I stop operating the machine that changes the control rods. The plant melts down.Could I claim "It's not my fault. I didn't inflict the meltdown - I just let the machine cause the meltdown."?If you'll remember, according to the Christian mythos, God *created* and is *supreme to* Satan. Satan can't do anything without God letting it happen. If God "sits back", knowing what Satan will do, he is just as guilty as the operator of the control rod-changing equipment who decides to just "sit back" and let the plant do as it will.

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"Illuminant light,
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I removed you from the list mike I'm not saying those people I named will be lost. I'm just stating that IF they continue on their current path, they will be lost. Now I see what you're saying and how you are reading what I said, but please understand that I did not mean it the way you are thinking. We have numerous examples in the Bible where we are counseled to rebuke one who is in error. Judging them of course would say "you are going to hell". We are to warn the world, are we not? Mentioning names in our message may help to awaken one of his/her condition.John the Baptist told the Pharasees "ye generation of vipers". He was not judging them, of course, but was directing his message to them specifically. It was a message of warning.

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~Lysimachus

On this line, Do Gays Cause Tornadoes?Excerpt:Gay people are in every state (even Alaska). According to Pat's hypothesis, there should be more gay people in states that have more tornadoes. But are there? Nope. In fact, there's no correlation at all between the number of gay folks (as estimated by the number of gay political organizations, support groups, bookstores, radio programs, and circuit parties) and the annual tornado count r = ..04, p =.78 for you statisticians).So much for the "God hates gays" theory. God seems almost neutral on the subject of sexual orientation. I say "almost" because if we look at the density of gay groups relative to the population as a whole, there is a small but statistically significant (p>.05) correlation with the occurrence of tornadoes. And it's a negative correlation r = -.28).For those of you who haven't used statistics since 1973, that means that a high concentration of gay organizations actually protects against tornadoes. A state with the population of, say, Alabama could avert two tornadoes a year merely by doubling the number of gay organizations in the state (Tough choice for Alabama's civil defense strategists).Although God may not care about sexual orientation, the same cannot be said for religious affiliation. If the underlying tenet of Pat's postulate is true -- that God wipes out offensive folks via natural disasters -- then perhaps we can find some evidence of who's on God's hit list.Jews are off the hook here: there's no correlation between numbers of Jews and frequency of tornadoes. Ditto for Catholics. But when it comes to Protestants, there's a highly significant correlation of .71.This means that fully half the state-to-state variation in tornado frequency can be accounted for by the presence of Protestants. And the chance that this association is merely coincidental is only one in 10,000.Protestants, of course, come in many flavors -- we were able to find statistics for Lutherans, Methodists, Baptists, and Others. Lutherans don't seem to be a problem -- no correlation with tornadoes. There's a modest correlation r = .52, p = .0001) between Methodists and tornadoes.But Baptists and Others share the prize: both groups show a definite correlation with tornado frequency r = .68, p =.0001). This means that Texas could cut its average of 139 tornadoes per year in half by sending a few hundred thousand Baptists elsewhere (Alaska maybe?).What, you are probably asking yourself, about gay Protestants? An examination of the numbers of gay religious groups (mostly Protestant) reveals no significant relationship with tornadoes. Perhaps even Protestants are less repugnant to God if they're gay.And that brings up another point -- the futility of trying to save the world by getting gay people to accept Jesus. It looks from our numbers as if the frequency of natural disasters might be more effectively reduced by encouraging Protestants to be gay.(etc)

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"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

Charles Knight, did you think my article came from nowhere? Interestingly, different ones seem to vary in the wording, but the emphasis remains the same. The article I posted was from Drudge Report, but here are the articles of which Drudge Report's was based on:http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/..._THE_INCREASE_GLOBALLY.asphttp://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/...ry/0,4386,273456,00.htmlhttp://www.blia.org/english/UNNGO/news2003/20031210d.htmWelcome to the United NationsWelcome to the United Nations
More than 20 of the 50-odd small island developing States around the world have been severely affected by hurricanes, typhoons or major floods over the past two years - including some more than once during this period.

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In January this year, the infrastructure on the Pacific island of Niue was destroyed by Cyclone Heta and several other islands and atolls suffered severe damage.

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~Lysimachus